Ali and Jones engaged in a similar interview a few weeks post Insurrection where it also seemed that they were trying to retroactively sync stories.
And I found another reference to someone claiming a Jan 5th meeting with Trump -- Rogan Handley stated he was with Trump on the 5th when he spoke later that night with Jones, Ali etc. He is known as DC Draino on social media but was a high power entertainment attorney before he gave up practicing to be a digital warrior for Trump
No, I'm going to have to do much more than link to what I just saw. I will write a story on it and have it up in the next 24 hours. This is big. Not trying to be coy—I swear—but this needs to be done right.
Sorry, one more thread perhaps..... I asked you in one of your earlier AMA if you had seen that both Sec Def Miller & Kash Patel said they met w/ Trump in the Oval Jan 5th (supposedly re: Iran ) in Vanity Fair & that it was the meeting where Trump told them they would need 10,000 boots on ground on the 6th.... but that there was no mention of Jan 5th meeting on official DOD timeline. You mentioned you were looking Into it at the time -- what are the chances that Miller and Patel were also involved w/ war council meeting then? Can't help but wonder if it wasn't zoom type of meeting between groups and that if that is the case, whether Roger Stone and his oath keepers pals (& his cop friend) weren't also somehow looped in?
Glad I could help! I've been obsessed with this after spending six months as Biden research & social media volunteer who first encountered Ali (& friends) efforts to sink Biden this fall.
There is info I would like to send that includes proof that Ali also was on a conference call w/ Trump admin staff on Dec 21st in the evening about 10pm EST. The number is a working DHS number
Seth, I can’t thank you enough for all of your insightful writing. You kept me sane during Orange Shitler’s reign of terror and now you are keeping me hopeful that the traitors in GQP will be brought to justice. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
My husband I were just talking about Watergate, where it took years to build the case against Nixon. Then he reminded me that there is a book by E. Howard Hunt's son- St. John- with photos of him with Alex Jones and stories about Roger Stone. Wow. They really go back in history in this vein, don't they?
Seth, I really appreciate all of your work. This is enlightening as always. There are a few other lines of questions which I think are worth pursuing:
1. Who funded Stop the Steal? The Kochs are well known for astroturfing supposed grass root movements like the Tea Party. The Mercers seem to be connected to all things Trumpy/ Far Right including Cambridge Analytica, Breitbart, Parler, Steve Bannon and I suspect Citizens United.
2. Is Steve Bannon connected? I read reports that he was the one driving Trump towards the "go over the voters to the state legislators" idea. He also has military tactical experience which would have been helpful in tactical planning of the insurrection (some of the concepts were actually quite creative partisan warfare: create a distraction with a bomb, break through the lines early to catch them when they have weak defenses, have a vanguard removing key barriers and directing the mob, and using the mob to distract the Police while they attempt to carry out their mission).
3. What roll did Qanon play? Was Q in on it? Who is Q (Flynn? Stone? Bannon? All three?). Qanon not only helped accelerate the big lie, it perpetuated the concept that the President had superseding authority over congress as well as all civilians, which explains why many rioters were under the impression that what they were doing was not only moral but also legal. It was the original source of the idea that the President would declare martial law (something Mike Flynn promoted), which many rioters like the Oath Keepers seem to have been under the impression would happen during or after the rally. Q was weaponized by the Stop the Steal movement, especially through Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn and Jim Watkins.
If he wasn't the poster, it seems highly likely that he was collaborating with the poster to shape the narrative for some time. Everything fits him; pizza gate, Seth Rich and other conspiracy theories, the obsession with military intelligence, a huge grudge against Obama and Hillary, and dominionistic theocratic fascist ideology, and the idea of "digital soldiers" forming a counterinsurgency are all his signature. That and Q making him into a demigod are pretty good indicators he is involved. I'm not really convinced with Cullen Hoback's theory that Ron Watkins is Q. He doesn't seem to have the people skills to be that effective a cult leader, but he could have been a facilitator of the bigger op.
Surely there must be extensive CCTV from the Jan 5 Trump International Hotel meeting, of the insurrection plotters coming and going. Also WH Visitors' Log must now be accessible.
Where's Ali Alexander (né Ali Abdul-Razaq Akbar), convicted felon and Nazi sympathizer, in all of this? Recall that before the insurrection, he was with Jones in Georgia stoking the flames of insurrection. On the day of the insurrection, Ali stood on the roof of a nearby building, at a safe distance from the insurrection violence, stating, "And what's happening now is exactly what I've warned about." He shows no sense of panic or dismay at the unfolding events -- not the reaction of an outsider. Since January 6th, Ali has been in hiding, claiming he's "hiding in the mountains," which we know is utter crap. So, who's hiding him? My guess is someone with deep pockets.
Ali and Jones engaged in a similar interview a few weeks post Insurrection where it also seemed that they were trying to retroactively sync stories.
And I found another reference to someone claiming a Jan 5th meeting with Trump -- Rogan Handley stated he was with Trump on the 5th when he spoke later that night with Jones, Ali etc. He is known as DC Draino on social media but was a high power entertainment attorney before he gave up practicing to be a digital warrior for Trump
Do you have a link? Would love to look into this.
Holy crap. Strike that. I just found it. Wow. *WOW*.
Links?
No, I'm going to have to do much more than link to what I just saw. I will write a story on it and have it up in the next 24 hours. This is big. Not trying to be coy—I swear—but this needs to be done right.
Huge, huge thanks to Jewelz for the heads up on this.
Sorry, one more thread perhaps..... I asked you in one of your earlier AMA if you had seen that both Sec Def Miller & Kash Patel said they met w/ Trump in the Oval Jan 5th (supposedly re: Iran ) in Vanity Fair & that it was the meeting where Trump told them they would need 10,000 boots on ground on the 6th.... but that there was no mention of Jan 5th meeting on official DOD timeline. You mentioned you were looking Into it at the time -- what are the chances that Miller and Patel were also involved w/ war council meeting then? Can't help but wonder if it wasn't zoom type of meeting between groups and that if that is the case, whether Roger Stone and his oath keepers pals (& his cop friend) weren't also somehow looped in?
Glad I could help! I've been obsessed with this after spending six months as Biden research & social media volunteer who first encountered Ali (& friends) efforts to sink Biden this fall.
There is info I would like to send that includes proof that Ali also was on a conference call w/ Trump admin staff on Dec 21st in the evening about 10pm EST. The number is a working DHS number
I'm so grateful that you take time to write these letters. You give me a glimmer of hope that the former guy will be held accountable someday.
Seth, I can’t thank you enough for all of your insightful writing. You kept me sane during Orange Shitler’s reign of terror and now you are keeping me hopeful that the traitors in GQP will be brought to justice. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
All leads lead to the former guy.
Sorry, one more-- did you see Brazilian version of Trump just cleaned house at his DOD?
It seems a bit of a given that FBI has $5 in loose change to subscribe to Proof ... :-) What a deal!
Hahahaa!
My husband I were just talking about Watergate, where it took years to build the case against Nixon. Then he reminded me that there is a book by E. Howard Hunt's son- St. John- with photos of him with Alex Jones and stories about Roger Stone. Wow. They really go back in history in this vein, don't they?
Don't you just love this substack???
I will be very disappointed if people like Jones & Stone go free. They need to be held accountable.
Seth, I really appreciate all of your work. This is enlightening as always. There are a few other lines of questions which I think are worth pursuing:
1. Who funded Stop the Steal? The Kochs are well known for astroturfing supposed grass root movements like the Tea Party. The Mercers seem to be connected to all things Trumpy/ Far Right including Cambridge Analytica, Breitbart, Parler, Steve Bannon and I suspect Citizens United.
2. Is Steve Bannon connected? I read reports that he was the one driving Trump towards the "go over the voters to the state legislators" idea. He also has military tactical experience which would have been helpful in tactical planning of the insurrection (some of the concepts were actually quite creative partisan warfare: create a distraction with a bomb, break through the lines early to catch them when they have weak defenses, have a vanguard removing key barriers and directing the mob, and using the mob to distract the Police while they attempt to carry out their mission).
3. What roll did Qanon play? Was Q in on it? Who is Q (Flynn? Stone? Bannon? All three?). Qanon not only helped accelerate the big lie, it perpetuated the concept that the President had superseding authority over congress as well as all civilians, which explains why many rioters were under the impression that what they were doing was not only moral but also legal. It was the original source of the idea that the President would declare martial law (something Mike Flynn promoted), which many rioters like the Oath Keepers seem to have been under the impression would happen during or after the rally. Q was weaponized by the Stop the Steal movement, especially through Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn and Jim Watkins.
I've always thought Flynn was Q. He and his family have been marketing Q merchandise.
If he wasn't the poster, it seems highly likely that he was collaborating with the poster to shape the narrative for some time. Everything fits him; pizza gate, Seth Rich and other conspiracy theories, the obsession with military intelligence, a huge grudge against Obama and Hillary, and dominionistic theocratic fascist ideology, and the idea of "digital soldiers" forming a counterinsurgency are all his signature. That and Q making him into a demigod are pretty good indicators he is involved. I'm not really convinced with Cullen Hoback's theory that Ron Watkins is Q. He doesn't seem to have the people skills to be that effective a cult leader, but he could have been a facilitator of the bigger op.
Surely there must be extensive CCTV from the Jan 5 Trump International Hotel meeting, of the insurrection plotters coming and going. Also WH Visitors' Log must now be accessible.
During Trump's reign of corruption, didn't the White House stop keeping track of who was going in and out?
Where's Ali Alexander (né Ali Abdul-Razaq Akbar), convicted felon and Nazi sympathizer, in all of this? Recall that before the insurrection, he was with Jones in Georgia stoking the flames of insurrection. On the day of the insurrection, Ali stood on the roof of a nearby building, at a safe distance from the insurrection violence, stating, "And what's happening now is exactly what I've warned about." He shows no sense of panic or dismay at the unfolding events -- not the reaction of an outsider. Since January 6th, Ali has been in hiding, claiming he's "hiding in the mountains," which we know is utter crap. So, who's hiding him? My guess is someone with deep pockets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn_IDWJImVg
Ali is probably at one of Roger Stone's houses.
Excellent presentation. Best guess on how long until indicted?
This might help out. Stones body guards were within 3 minutes striking distance of the capitol grounds on golf carts at 2:30. I think Trump Hotel is a likely candidate. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/roger-stones-guards-charged-in-an-indictment-detailing-a-golf-cart-caper-calls-to-oath-keepers-founder/amp/