A recent interview by former Fulton County grand juror Emily Kohrs is being used by certain figures in major media to cast doubt on a Trump indictment before it happens—for no good reason whatsoever.
Thank You!! I've spent some time explaining This issue to folks in the past 24 hours... While I certainly wouldn't have agreed to meet with the press, I feel like she limited her answers to Exactly the Limit established by Georgia Rules and the Instructions from the Judge... 😉💫✨
I agree. Reading various comments, I often want to reply, “ Did you even READ the article you are asking questions about?” America seriously needs to improve our education system!
She did, and AP says during interviews she even referred to notes she took when the judge instructed jury members about what they could and could not do.
I disagree that Americans don't know how the criminal "justice system" works. It works like this: Realty Winner does five years for one classified document and post haste, orangehead goes almost two years with DOJ begging him on bended knee to return the hundreds he stole, and the FBI refuses to even question him like they would any other person. Cops get to shoot a driver 60 times for running a red light and face no "justice system". Brock Turner gets to rape coeds and gets probation while Breonna Taylor gets murdered in her own bed for doing what exactly? Going on a date with a drug dealer? I'm pretty sure that's not a crime even in Kentucky. Added bonus! the cops that lied to get a warrant get off scot free. Trust me we know EXACTLY how the "justice system" works...
My frustration extends to ABA and State Bar Associations. Thanks to Trump they have a pretty great idea of several attorneys who do not uphold the standards and are really prominently destroying confidence in the legal system and the profession . Yet is any action taken?
After all the media coverage given to Trump and his conspirators over their cries of election fraud, the clearest case of election fraud was Trump’s attempt to compel Raffensperger to find the votes needed for Trump to win in Georgia. The broadcast of Trump’s phone call to Raffensperger has been ringing the bell for indictment of Trump ever since. Let’s hope 2023 is the year justice answers.
Thank you, Seth, as ever. I have been waking up early every day hoping to see some significant movement toward these indictments, only to find there's only all this agitprop about the longest-ever "witchhunt." Yawn. Thank you for all your efforts!
My only concern about this interview is that her giddiness about meeting Giuliani and Graham, and her remarks as to how funny some of the witnesses were, detracts from the perceived seriousness of the job of this or any jury. I hope that their deliberations were more sober. And who would have written the report? Do the jurors have help with that?
indeed, I found her affect, the constant appearance of incongruent smiles, to be somewhere between mildly and very disturbing. I agree that her seeming fan girl remarks about Graham and Giuliani were on and very out of place, especially along side, the rest of the smirking
I think the thing to keep is mind is how bizarre it is to be interviewed by media if one has never done it before. It took me many, many appearances on TV and radio and podcast to begin to develop any comfort whatsoever with the process, and my comfort was still minimal. To be clear, since I don't know Kohrs I don't know what her regular-workday personality is like, I'm just saying that some of that giggling could be nervous laughter and some of the odd comments could be someone who is simply in way over her head as a matter of media relations. I can tell you that when a book author is going to go on a national tour the publisher will often hire a media expert to help them prepare for interviews, and Kohrs' affect and conduct during interviews is why this is done. Because the average person just has no way to prepare themselves for the bizarre experience of being interviewed live.
Thanks for that insight, Seth. I think you're right. Plus, she's young and was taxed with huge responsibility. Anyone would be nervous. But she had taken notes on the judge's instructions, consulted them during interviews, didn't discuss deliberations and BROKE NO LAWS. That's the answer to peat to journalists whose stories misconstrue the facts. We need to say that and write that over & over & over.
I agree on media prep. Have taken classes on how to conduct press conference for disaster response. Many people fail although they have best intentions and more than likely prep. I appreciate your thoughts and again I unfortunately feel reminded of the laziness of many journalist. Share your optimistic hope that those in position to make decisions regarding indictments stay focused.
I didn’t see the whole interview (did anyone?) but I wanted the reporter to ask what Kohrs’ motive was for doing the interview, given that grand jurors typically stay silent (I know Georgia law allows it but that’s not a motive.) Given the dangers of revealing her identity or too much info, the evident discomforts and the absence of any tangible gains from doing it, the question of motive would be good to know.
Two MSNBC anchors (Lawrence O'Donnell and Nicole Wallace) played the clip of her answering why she agreed to the interview, and it sounded like the experience had a big impact on her in convincing her that "the law works" and that everyone should be happy to be selected for jury duty and not try to get out of it, because "we are the law." Ms. Kohr is someone who said she did not vote in the 2016 or 2020 elections and hadn't even heard the Trump/Raffensberger call before serving on the jury.
Interesting, these Americans. Living in a democracy, registered to vote ( from whence the jury pool is selected) but not voting, apparently all in for the rule of law and charmed by Giuliani & Graham.
Well, I have to say that Lindsey Graham can be charming - even to Dems. He certainly was when I covered I the Southern Governors Conference many years ago, back when bipartisan civility reigned. You might not believe this, but Dem and GOP governors even sat side by side. Truth.
It's not that some of the MSM doesn't report the news accurately or in depth, but generally this requires citizens that are interested in issues, life-long learning, and who have the time and money to to pursue greater knowledge and understanding and make better choices.
The U.S. has a relatively high adult literacy rate of 79%. However, 54% of U.S. adults are only literate at or below a 6th grade level. Additionally, newspaper consumption has dropped in more than half between 2000 and 2020. The Internet, which offers the potential library in your hand, can fill this gap but people need to want to continue learn, and have the time and money to pursue more understanding as well of some basic online search skills. For those without sufficient interest, time and money, and especially those who find reading difficult, there is a formidable knowledge and information gap. Add to this the increasing amount of conspiracy theories and misinformation combined with purposeful manipulation and exploitation and you have a recipe for disaster.
My hope is that one day, after a major environmental disaster, when a con man comes to the impacted town, instead of a crowd of people welcoming him as if to thank him for everything he has done for them, those impacted will understand his role in their tragedy. Of course, they will run him out of town, before he has a chance to pitch his putrid brand, sociopathy, and vision that always ends at the tip of of nose:
Thank you. As ever, you clarify legalities for me, a layman retired elementary school teacher (with three college degrees). Your succinct and lucid perspective is always heartening to my beleaguered political spirit..
I don’t understand how so many people can not know the law in Georgia is different than most states regarding their juror’s and speaking out after they’ve been discharged.
Thank You!! I've spent some time explaining This issue to folks in the past 24 hours... While I certainly wouldn't have agreed to meet with the press, I feel like she limited her answers to Exactly the Limit established by Georgia Rules and the Instructions from the Judge... 😉💫✨
I agree. Reading various comments, I often want to reply, “ Did you even READ the article you are asking questions about?” America seriously needs to improve our education system!
Fat chance with the Fascist MAGAts trying to ruin the education in the country from bottom to top in some states.
Amen! Maybe teach logic and reading comprehension.
She did, and AP says during interviews she even referred to notes she took when the judge instructed jury members about what they could and could not do.
I disagree that Americans don't know how the criminal "justice system" works. It works like this: Realty Winner does five years for one classified document and post haste, orangehead goes almost two years with DOJ begging him on bended knee to return the hundreds he stole, and the FBI refuses to even question him like they would any other person. Cops get to shoot a driver 60 times for running a red light and face no "justice system". Brock Turner gets to rape coeds and gets probation while Breonna Taylor gets murdered in her own bed for doing what exactly? Going on a date with a drug dealer? I'm pretty sure that's not a crime even in Kentucky. Added bonus! the cops that lied to get a warrant get off scot free. Trust me we know EXACTLY how the "justice system" works...
My frustration extends to ABA and State Bar Associations. Thanks to Trump they have a pretty great idea of several attorneys who do not uphold the standards and are really prominently destroying confidence in the legal system and the profession . Yet is any action taken?
The BAR exists to protect lawyers not prosecute. They only act to disbar when the publicity is so bad it forces their hand.
After all the media coverage given to Trump and his conspirators over their cries of election fraud, the clearest case of election fraud was Trump’s attempt to compel Raffensperger to find the votes needed for Trump to win in Georgia. The broadcast of Trump’s phone call to Raffensperger has been ringing the bell for indictment of Trump ever since. Let’s hope 2023 is the year justice answers.
Thank you, Seth, as ever. I have been waking up early every day hoping to see some significant movement toward these indictments, only to find there's only all this agitprop about the longest-ever "witchhunt." Yawn. Thank you for all your efforts!
My only concern about this interview is that her giddiness about meeting Giuliani and Graham, and her remarks as to how funny some of the witnesses were, detracts from the perceived seriousness of the job of this or any jury. I hope that their deliberations were more sober. And who would have written the report? Do the jurors have help with that?
indeed, I found her affect, the constant appearance of incongruent smiles, to be somewhere between mildly and very disturbing. I agree that her seeming fan girl remarks about Graham and Giuliani were on and very out of place, especially along side, the rest of the smirking
I think the thing to keep is mind is how bizarre it is to be interviewed by media if one has never done it before. It took me many, many appearances on TV and radio and podcast to begin to develop any comfort whatsoever with the process, and my comfort was still minimal. To be clear, since I don't know Kohrs I don't know what her regular-workday personality is like, I'm just saying that some of that giggling could be nervous laughter and some of the odd comments could be someone who is simply in way over her head as a matter of media relations. I can tell you that when a book author is going to go on a national tour the publisher will often hire a media expert to help them prepare for interviews, and Kohrs' affect and conduct during interviews is why this is done. Because the average person just has no way to prepare themselves for the bizarre experience of being interviewed live.
Thanks for that insight, Seth. I think you're right. Plus, she's young and was taxed with huge responsibility. Anyone would be nervous. But she had taken notes on the judge's instructions, consulted them during interviews, didn't discuss deliberations and BROKE NO LAWS. That's the answer to peat to journalists whose stories misconstrue the facts. We need to say that and write that over & over & over.
I agree on media prep. Have taken classes on how to conduct press conference for disaster response. Many people fail although they have best intentions and more than likely prep. I appreciate your thoughts and again I unfortunately feel reminded of the laziness of many journalist. Share your optimistic hope that those in position to make decisions regarding indictments stay focused.
I didn’t see the whole interview (did anyone?) but I wanted the reporter to ask what Kohrs’ motive was for doing the interview, given that grand jurors typically stay silent (I know Georgia law allows it but that’s not a motive.) Given the dangers of revealing her identity or too much info, the evident discomforts and the absence of any tangible gains from doing it, the question of motive would be good to know.
Two MSNBC anchors (Lawrence O'Donnell and Nicole Wallace) played the clip of her answering why she agreed to the interview, and it sounded like the experience had a big impact on her in convincing her that "the law works" and that everyone should be happy to be selected for jury duty and not try to get out of it, because "we are the law." Ms. Kohr is someone who said she did not vote in the 2016 or 2020 elections and hadn't even heard the Trump/Raffensberger call before serving on the jury.
Interesting, these Americans. Living in a democracy, registered to vote ( from whence the jury pool is selected) but not voting, apparently all in for the rule of law and charmed by Giuliani & Graham.
Well, I have to say that Lindsey Graham can be charming - even to Dems. He certainly was when I covered I the Southern Governors Conference many years ago, back when bipartisan civility reigned. You might not believe this, but Dem and GOP governors even sat side by side. Truth.
There are six corporations that comprise the U.S mainstream media:
https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/media-stocks/big-6/
Trump has been very profitable for the MSM and in return the MSM has significantly helped Trump:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/trump-tax-cuts-beat-gilti.html
https://www.thestreet.com/politics/donald-trump-rode-5-billion-in-free-media-to-the-white-house-13896916
It's not that some of the MSM doesn't report the news accurately or in depth, but generally this requires citizens that are interested in issues, life-long learning, and who have the time and money to to pursue greater knowledge and understanding and make better choices.
The U.S. has a relatively high adult literacy rate of 79%. However, 54% of U.S. adults are only literate at or below a 6th grade level. Additionally, newspaper consumption has dropped in more than half between 2000 and 2020. The Internet, which offers the potential library in your hand, can fill this gap but people need to want to continue learn, and have the time and money to pursue more understanding as well of some basic online search skills. For those without sufficient interest, time and money, and especially those who find reading difficult, there is a formidable knowledge and information gap. Add to this the increasing amount of conspiracy theories and misinformation combined with purposeful manipulation and exploitation and you have a recipe for disaster.
My hope is that one day, after a major environmental disaster, when a con man comes to the impacted town, instead of a crowd of people welcoming him as if to thank him for everything he has done for them, those impacted will understand his role in their tragedy. Of course, they will run him out of town, before he has a chance to pitch his putrid brand, sociopathy, and vision that always ends at the tip of of nose:
https://newrepublic.com/post/170727/trump-deregulated-railroad-industry-lies-people-ohio-visit
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3869675-white-house-gop-trump-officials-laid-the-groundwork-for-loose-railway-regulations/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/22/donald-trump-toxic-train-derailment-east-palestine-ohio
https://www.edf.org/blog/2017/03/15/trump-has-declared-war-epa-5-chilling-examples
https://apnews.com/article/ea3d87fb8ef741c3bc255f1921892c9d
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/476604-trump-epa-has-largest-backlog-up-toxic-waste-cleanups-in-15-years/
Thank you. As ever, you clarify legalities for me, a layman retired elementary school teacher (with three college degrees). Your succinct and lucid perspective is always heartening to my beleaguered political spirit..
I don’t understand how so many people can not know the law in Georgia is different than most states regarding their juror’s and speaking out after they’ve been discharged.
All people in the media at minimum should know.